Roostertail Talk
A show dedicated for preserving the history, breaking down the racing and looking to the future of the incredible sport of Unlimited Hydroplane racing. My name is David Newton, and I will be bringing you a weekly show in which we will discuss the boats, drivers, owners, crew members, legends, fans and anything that is involved with the sport that I love; hydroplane racing.
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Roostertail Talk
Episode 162: Charlie Grigg, Part 1
Charlie Grigg shares his journey from being a riverside kid watching unlimited hydroplanes in the 1960s to becoming a key sponsor for Ed Cooper's piston-powered racing team. Along with co-host Mike Hall, a longtime Cooper team member, we explore how passion and community spirit drove Charlie's decision to bring the thunder back to the Columbia Cup. Join us next week for part two of our interview with Charlie Grigg, where we'll dive deeper into the sponsorship details.
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Rooster Tail Talk, the podcast dedicated to everything about the sport that we all love. I, jermaine Reese, I am your host, david Newton, and it's time once again. So sit back, relax and welcome to Rooster Tail Talk. Hello race fans, welcome back to the podcast. Today is September 16th 2025, and this is episode 162.
Speaker 1:Now for today's episode, I tried something a little bit differently. I have a co-host with me. I'm going to be talking with Mike Hall. You should recognize his name from being on earlier in the year, as Mike came on and talked about his career crewing for H1 Unlimited Racing Team, go3 Racing or Cooper's Express. It's been called many things over the years, but that team from Evansville, indiana that kept the thunder alive in the sport with that turbocharged Allison or the Turbinator. Now he joined me because 10 years ago he became good friends with Charlie Griggs, today's guest on the podcast. Now Charlie has made a name for himself in the sport the past 10 years or so, sponsoring Go3 Racing, the Cooper's Express team, out at Evansville Indiana, and bringing the Thunder to the Columbia Cup every year, with the last couple of years being an exception as the team is now for sale. I wanted to talk to Charlie because I always find it interesting to hear the reasoning behind sponsorships, how things started and why someone would choose to sponsor an unlimited hydroplane.
Speaker 1:This episode is part one of that interview that Mike and I have with Charlie Griggs. You already get a chance to know a little more about his background and his love and passion for the sport in this episode, and we'll talk more about the sponsorship details in the next episode. So, with that said, let's jump in to my interview of Charlie Griggs with my co-host, mike Hall. I'm sitting down on Zoom, talking with a couple of gentlemen across the United States here, and we're going to do something a little bit different for this episode. I actually have a co-host, mike Hall. Mike, you've been on before, a longtime crew member of Ed Cooper's team, and Griggs presents Ace Hardware. Mike, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:Great Thanks for having me on to host my really good friend Charlie. Charlie and I became Charlie. What year did you start sponsoring Ed's boat? I think it was 15. 15?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, ten years ago then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was 15. 15, yeah, okay, 10 years ago then. Yeah, so and charlie and I've become really good friends and it's my honor to to help interview my good friend.
Speaker 1:So thanks for asking me, yeah we've got some uh, you got some secret questions coming your way here a little bit, charlie, looking forward to hearing uh, but, charlie, how you? Doing great, great Well. Pleasure to have you on the show and I know that you're a hydroplane fan, that you geek out on hydroplanes and have been a long fan. But when did this start for you? Before we talk about your business and your sponsorship, I want to hear more about your background. When did this love for hydroplane racing start for you?
Speaker 3:Well, it was in the mid-60s when they started having the hydroplane races here in the Tri-Cities. I lived one block off of the river when I was a kid and I heard that noise. Didn't know what it was I mean little kid didn't read the paper, but I heard this noise coming from the river and I opened the back gate and ran across the field, across the street and down to the river and these boats were going around in circles and it was just loud as heck and they were fast, water was flying, and about that point I was pretty well hooked and say I've been following them ever since. I mean it was an on and off relationship as the kids started having kids and things that we we didn't go as often, but it's. It's something about the noise of those things that hooked me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just curious. We're on the Pasco side or Kennewick side? Pasco side, yeah, yeah, and it was you on the Pasco side or Kennewick side?
Speaker 3:Pasco side, Pasco side, yeah, yeah, and it was. It was a whole. I mean, as I grew up, it was a whole neighborhood party. I mean there would be, there would be bands in people's backyards and people coming over. I mean it was. It was just crazy that week. And again the week started. I think they started rolling in on a tuesday and wednesday. They were. They were running boats all day long, uh, testing and qualifying and heats, and again there would be 17 boats down there. So they were. It was constant action yeah, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1:It was a little bit different back then. It reminds me of my father's story growing up in the Seattle area. You hear the boats, the thunderboats back then, and they would run down to the river on their bikes and or to the lake and watch the boats but a little different now with the turbines.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Can't really hear them that far away. And that was the thing. I mean. I can remember standing on the shore and there would be five or six of them running at the same time and your insides would just shake and it was the coolest thing because I mean you're standing on the shore and inside of your body is shaking as those things are going around, and that's not I. I mean, you could go to a drag strip and get that kind of thing, but uh, kids now don't. They haven't experienced that.
Speaker 1:It's just awesome yeah, it's a different, totally different feel and I I grew up, I was born 84 and I just at the tail end of that, so my memories are kind of past that and there's really predominantly turbine racing at that point I wish I could have experienced that, but thankfully there's a few boats out there with the museum and when you're sponsoring Ed's boat it had some had some thunder where that brought to the races.
Speaker 3:Well, if you could, if you could get those I mean, the museum boats are old museum pieces, right, and if you could get them all when they're out doing their exhibition, if they would all go out and hammer down, you would get that feeling with five of them out there. But again, they're a little. They're not much over idle, it's just not quite the same. They're not much over idle, it's just not quite the same. And even with ed's boat, with the turbo chargers on it, that quiets it down immensely. I mean it's like having a muffler on there. But you get.
Speaker 2:You get a lot more power right, right, yeah, that's, and I that's. My son had asked me about all that noise back in the day because you know I was, you know I started watching back in what 78 and all that noise it was just like you said that it was earth-shaking, evan. I even told him I was, like you know, an Ed. Sometimes when you're in front of it you can really hear it, but most of it what you're hearing is the propeller. You know just that whining of the propeller. So, yeah, I can, I can definitely. Uh, I know what you're talking about with that.
Speaker 3:It's really cool it's and, like I say there's, no, you're not going to experience that anymore and and that's. But that's the reason that I wanted to bring the three back is to at least have that noise out there. And, and I and I for me, when the piston boats stopped running, I started losing interest. And I don't know, they were fast, it was, but it just it wasn't the same that I grew up with. I'm probably sounding like an old person now, but that's, that's what I, that's what I experienced, that's what I love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something so unique about that and yeah, I'm glad you did bring the sponsorship to Ed and got the boat out for many years and we'll talk about that here in a minute. But but just talking about your, your nostalgia for the sport and you had to have a favorite boat at some point or some team that you followed. Don't say a Cooper's go three, but what team was? And when you look back on the sport, what's your favorite?
Speaker 3:I was a Budweiser guy. I was a Dean Chenoweth guy. Bernie little was fascinating to be able to go down in the pits and he was just bigger than life and I wish that I had gotten involved sooner, because some of these guys I met Bernie as a kid, and the white pants and the gold chains and the bus you know. I'm sitting there looking at that bus going oh my God, this is just the coolest thing. Looking at that bus going oh my God, this is just the coolest thing. But the Budweiser, the very first, I mean the shovel-nosed ones had me but the Griffin would be my all-time favorite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that Griffin Bud's something else. The museum put out a really good show in Seafair with the Atlas there with the Griffin Bud.
Speaker 2:That's just a different animal. Yeah, even at idle, that that griffin bud is just that it's different. Yeah, I remember the first year they ran that I was in tri-cities and I was on the dock and I was I don't know if we were just coming in or something but they fired that thing up. I jumped about three foot in the air and I was like, wow, I've never heard anything like that before. Well, I had, I just wasn't that close to it.
Speaker 3:It's just a different, it's a different roar to it. I mean it's a deeper throat here, noise and like I say, that one totally got me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Mike, did you ever? I can't remember. When I interviewed you, did you tell me about your favorite team?
Speaker 2:My favorite team. Yeah, which is really weird because I've noticed that since I was from Evansville, you know Atlas Van, anything Atlas Van lines. I was more of a really big Chip Hanauer fan, even though in the beginning he drove the Squire Shop. Obviously, bill Muncy was my first favorite with the Blue Blaster because I started watching in 78. But it's funny you say that because I know John Culver and some other people out there were all Miss Budweiser fans and so back east it seems like there was a lot more Bill Muncy fans and it's just funny that you say that I didn't realize that you were a big Miss Budweiser fan, because John Culver's a huge Miss Budweiser fan from back in that day too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I still have it. I open my desk drawer at work and I've got Budweiser pins from the seventies in the drawer. Still, it's like you look at them. That's cool. What am I ever going to do with these? I don't know, but they're still sitting there and they make me smile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, well, fantastic. Yeah. It's interesting to hear from different regions. You know the nostalgia for it, but also the different teams that you're favoring.
Speaker 2:Another thing I wanted to ask is so you know and David asked me this is you know, as a fan, you know, the kids in Seattle always talk about pulling the boats behind their bikes and things like that Did you do that? Did you pull boats behind your bike? Oh yeah, oh okay, and things like that Did you? Did you do that? Did you pull?
Speaker 3:boats behind your bike, or oh, okay, okay, yeah, no, we we had. I mean it was it was the shovel nose looking one. Then we finally got some pickle fork looking ones. I mean it was just cut out of a piece of three quarter inch wood and you'd put them behind the bikes and the kids would race them up and down the street. Or we had them on strings and we'd set up a like would race them up and down the street. Or we had them on strings and we'd set up a course in the yard and we'd drag those things through. Well, the fastest kid won. But they're back there flopping over and banging around On the street. They would stay level and yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:So, with your end, with the hardware stores.
Speaker 3:Did you have better equipment than the other people? No, I had the same old piece of wood that they all had. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I've heard stories about people putting nails and stuff on the bottom and sparks.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, so the street that I lived on was a chip-sealed asphalt road so it was rough as a cob. You didn't go run with those things down the street because that asphalt wasn't smooth so we were dragging them on bikes. It eventually just sanded those things down to nothing. But you're out there announcing in your head it's into the first corner and you know in your head it's, you know, into the first corner. And then it was all radio that you heard back. Then there was, you know there was some tv that was on. You know, a month later that they would show it on wide world of sports. But yeah, you, you were announcing in your head what you were doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, fun times. Fun times fast forward few years. You have your own store. Do you have one or two stores? How many stores do you own? We have four.
Speaker 3:You have four, oh yeah. So my grandparents moved to the Tri-Cities in 1939. They came from South Dakota. They had a restaurant and it burned down for the second time and it was depression and they decided my grandfather decided to come west and he got in the car and started driving west and he would stop in every town that he went to and he was just trying to find a place to land and he would ask them questions about what do you need here in town?
Speaker 3:And, you know, is there something that's not being a need that's not being filled? And he worked his way. He actually got to Wallace, idaho, and decided that that's where he was going to land. He called my grandmother and told her to get in the car and bring my aunt to Dahlgren. Well, he kept, he got back in the car and he headed south and ended up in Pasco and changed his mind and said that this is where we're going to. So back in the 39, 38, there was no cell phones, so he had to call back to the hotel in Idaho that they were supposed to meet at and leave a message for her when she got there. She was supposed to keep coming to Pasco and they eventually landed in Pasco and opened a business. He had eight brothers and they all ended up moving out this direction and all of them did something different. There was engineers, electrical, did electrical work, architects all kinds of different things that they did and they all ended up moving here and started building things.
Speaker 1:Quite the history there. So you're a native Trisidian.
Speaker 3:I was born in Pasco. My father, he's 86. He was born here as well and, like I say, my kids are here here as well. And like I say, my kids are kids are here. My, my sisters and mom have moved, moved to other places, but I stayed here with the business. So we, so we have one department store which is two city blocks it's a, it was a Walmart before there was a Walmart. And then we have three ACE hardware stores in the Tri-Cities.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so time moved on and you're doing better with the stores there, but what made you decide to get more involved with hydroplane racing? You're a fan. Was it a dream of yours to be a sponsor?
Speaker 3:No, I never thought it was possible. And uh, in 15 there was a article in the tri-city herald saying that ed cooper wanted to come back and they were looking for a sponsorship and say I could remember when they won here in the tri-cities. Um, you know the huge upset and the crowd, crowd went wild, uh. But I knew that he was still doing pistons, and so I saw this article and I I thought about it for the day and then I there was an email to send an address or send send a message to if you were interested. So I sent an email it was rick bowles on the other end and the email pretty much said I'm not saying that I can, but if I could, how much is it?
Speaker 3:And they sent back a number and I thought about it and I said I can do that. I mean that's so. So again, it wasn't, it wasn't about sponsorship for me, it was not. It was a way to give back to the Tri-Cities. And if I could get that boat here and bring back some of that nostalgia, I thought that you know, the Tri-Cities has been good to me, I can do something good for it, and so that's where it came from. The number was something I could live with, and so I said, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2:I remember so in 2015,. You had to jog my memory when that was, but I remember Ed and I were in Valleyfield the week prior to that. We had done some work to say we think we might be coming. We didn't know, and Ed and I were in Valleyfield and he looks at me and says hey, I'm getting you a ticket, we're going to Tri-Cities, we've got a sponsor and until I, I don't know if we decaled the boat here in Evansville.
Speaker 2:No, it was here. Was it out there the first time? Yep, okay, so I do remember that we got everything ready and I flew out to Tri-Cities, and when I got there, we were. Miss Ace Hardware. I can't remember exactly that year what we were, griggs. Presents Miss Ace Hardware, is that what it was?
Speaker 2:okay yeah, and then you know, obviously getting to meet you guys, and then I think it was right off the bat, I think we had good chemistry, I think, uh, I mean we knew right away you weren't a sponsor that was going to sit in your rv all weekend and and just entertain people. It was like you became a part of the team really quick, which was really fun for us.
Speaker 3:See, I thought it was just going to be a financial transaction and I met Ed at KNDU TV. They had four boats out in the parking lot. He said meet me there with the check. I got in a holler with him and the check and gave him the check. We sat down and started talking. He asked why I was doing it. I told him about the story about living on the river and being fascinated by him. He said he had the same story 10, 15 years earlier than I did in Madison, in Evansville. It was the same thing for him and I think that I 100% know that he was leery of me being involved. So I figured I was going to give him a check.
Speaker 3:We'd have a conversation, I'd go back over to the pasco side on run race weekend, put up a, an easy up and some chairs, and that's where I would watch the race from. And hey, all of a sudden he made me feel at home. And going down to the, down to the pits and setting up, it was, you know. I'm asking what can I do, you know? And he's, oh, nothing. And I'm like, well, I got to do something. I mean, can I sweep, can I? You know, is there a mess that needs to be cleaned up. What you know? What can I do?
Speaker 3:And he eventually warmed up to the fact that I could help. Now, as far as knowing anything about a hydroplane or working on an Allison, that's not me, I don't know that, but there's things that I can do, and it just worked into a relationship with the whole team. I thought they were probably leery of me too, and I've been around some of the people that do sponsor boats that it's all about me, me, me, and for me it was. I just wanted to be involved. I wanted to learn something.
Speaker 1:Mike, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ed has a saying or a motto with the team If you've got time to lean, you got time to clean.
Speaker 2:He says that Now, everybody, he is not quite the hard-ass that everybody thinks that he is, and Charlie will tell you too he is one of the sweetest, nicest people you'll ever meet in your life. He does have a rule no chairs.
Speaker 2:Well, I will say I and thank you to charlie. But when charlie came around, all of a sudden we had chairs in the pit area, which was really nice, and so that that was cool. So I, I thank charlie for that, because he kind of introduced uh hey, we could actually be comfortable at a race site. So that was cool.
Speaker 1:But that was really cool.
Speaker 2:I do remember Charlie right off because, like, I put the wing on and I never had enough help. So I do remember asking Charlie right off the bat when he was standing, like, hey, do you want to help me do this? And it was right away, you know, dug in and helping. And I believe the next day he came with gloves and I do remember that. So I believe the next day he came with gloves and I do remember that. So I was like okay, yeah, this guy's got to, I like this guy. And just from then on that, like I feel Charlie and I have been good friends since day one and he's fit in with that team and he's welcome anywhere. Yeah, and that's not the way with everybody, but yeah, charlie was just a good fit for our program and a great sponsors, my favorite sponsor we ever had, and we've had a lot of them. But yeah, yeah, I it was.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say love at first sight. I don't know what you would say, but like, well, I love you, but I don't know, but I can't speak for the rest of you. But like, well, I love you, but I don't know, I can't speak for the rest of you. But yeah, it's just fit in so well with what we do. You know, no ego at all, even though his name is, you know, bernie. Never really had his name that big on the on the boat, but Charlie's got his name huge on the boat, so take that for what it's worth. But yeah, anyway, I'm just kidding Charlie.
Speaker 3:Well, it's funny because I mean I got into it to give back to the Tri-Cities and I didn't realize the friends I mean the lifelong friends that I would make that quickly. It's just everything. Everything clicked and, like I say, with with coopers. I mean they were out here for, uh, for the columbia cup or gold cup, whatever it was called this year, and mitch was here and a bunch of the guys from the team were here. We just helped mitch, but it it was, I was, I was, it was racing to begin with, but now it's friends and, like I say, if they want to run the boat again, great. Otherwise we can go meet somewhere and enjoy the company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's even when I talk I will call Charlie, you know, once a month or have some kind of communication, and it's never about hydroplanes or anything, it's just how are you doing and family stuff and and so he's right and and it and it's been the same for me. It's like I don't really remember the races too more, too much other than the gold cup and the ones we won, but I remember the friends and the, the all nighters and going out to eat.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of the same for me.
Speaker 3:Well, it's fun to hear all the stories from the team's past the three, the stories about the three and it always makes me jealous that I didn't start until 15. I mean, I hear you and Culver's and Ed talking about things and things that happened and it's like God I wish that I got to know that person, or I wish I'd have been there, for you know that experience. But you know, I'm lucky that I got to do it when I got to do it yeah, that's definitely, definitely right, I mean.
Speaker 1:But one thing I just echoed, I feel like with all the people I talked to in the sport, is just that immense support system of friendship and family within in the the sport and I feel like you know every team you go to has that same sense. It's a little bit different, but I know cooper's has. It's really a great group of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I really lucked out with with that group, um, and then you know, actually, and Ed's had Ed's had a reputation of being cantankerous. He, that is not that guy. I mean, he is, he is the nicest guy. He is the nicest guy in the world. Um, he, he's, he's just a great person.
Speaker 1:We'll go back to that first year. And you have the decals on the boat and it says Griggs presents Miss Ace Hardware, and you sat on the water for that first time. What was your feelings seeing your name on the boat?
Speaker 3:Like I say it was, it was kind of cool. Uh, to me, like I say, it was a give back thing. I didn't uh, I don't know that it's what you that you might expect. Um, it was, it was just, it was. It was cool. Um, I never thought that it would happen. I didn't realize the amount of people that would come up and want to talk about it. It was just something that I was doing as a giveback, but people were interested in it and had lots of questions.
Speaker 3:I learned as much as I could about the boat. I'm kind of a tour guide when people wanted to see it. But I remembered being a little kid and standing next to a boat and how interested I was in it. And so when I would see kids come up in pit tours and things you wanted to give them something extra. You wanted to talk to them and let them know. You know I don't know anything about working on boats, but I'm here working, working with the boat team. You show some interest with somebody you may be able to do the same thing and, uh, it was just, it was a cool experience, but I don't know that it was. I don't know that it was like uh, you know, look at me, I've got my name on the boat we talk about saving Go ahead Mike.
Speaker 2:He took that to the next level and put names on buckets so everybody can see his name as well.
Speaker 3:I had the buckets before that.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:It's. You know, when you're in business you promote things, and is it? Is it a regular bucket or is it different? And so that's. I don't know how many thousands of those buckets we've sold, but it's just something that is different. It's not a Home Depot bucket and it's orange with the letters on it. I mean it's, it's different, and none of the other ACE stores have. All of them are doing different things now. But it was just an idea I had and I just kind of ran with it. I mean, I've got pictures of me on our vehicles. I've been on TV since I was 21 years old 21, 22 years old and people know who you are and it's a part of the community. Well, when they see the truck drive by and your pictures on it, they recognize that it's different and so it's promotion of the business.
Speaker 1:Well, do you feel like, with this promotion of the business, you said you're giving back to the community and I know you've gotten that back. I mean, the community loves what you did for the sport and for the Columbia Cup with that, but do you financially? Do you feel like it was a good decision for your business?
Speaker 3:Financially it doesn't benefit the business. I mean, if it were a national business I can see it benefiting, but when it's one race in the Tri-Cities and we don't go I mean we did race in Guntersville under our name, but it's as a business decision I don't know that it's a great decision, not enough eyes on it to warrant it. It did create some buzz. The number of Facebook friends that I've gotten around the country that are boat racing people. Again, it always amazes me that they want to follow me because they don't. I mean, I'm just a guy, but I accept them and you know they got questions about the boats and they're interested in things. So that's part of what we're doing is creating interest.
Speaker 2:Well, and a lot of Charlie, something that you you know. You taught me about a lot, about the ACE hardware franchise and the and now I mean I exclusively use these hardwares around here because of the quality. You know you told me about the meetings you go to and you guys pick out what you're going to do and it's it's good quality stuff, like you're getting the best of breed of whatever tool or or anything.
Speaker 3:So they're, they're all independently owned. Uh, they're, so it's. It's small owners like me. Um right, I've got, I've got four stores. And spokane, there's one guy that's got three. There's a number of them that just have one store, but they're independently owned. It's people they're making their way, using Ace as what they're famous for, but everyone is on their own. So when we went to Guntersville, I checked with all of the ACE stores around the Guntersville area, trying to see if they wanted to help in the sponsorship. They're in a different position than I am. They weren't able to do that. We got them tickets and let them come down to the race and experience it, but they, all of these stores, I mean, like I say, my, my largest ACE store is 50,000 feet. Most of the ACE stores are 10,000 feet, so it's it's a different scale and they just a lot of them.
Speaker 1:Just aren't able to help. Well, at least during the Columbia Cup week did you notice an uptick in sales.
Speaker 3:We did sell T-shirts in the store. We've been selling the models. It's crazy, we've sold like 200 of the three models. We've always had an uptick during boat race week and it's either it's tents, it's pop-ups, it's disposable chairs, ice chests, that kind of thing. We've always had that. It didn't increase because we had the boat down there, but again, it's top-of-mind awareness as part of the business.
Speaker 3:Again, like Mike said, there's fans all over the country that, hey, I'm going to support the ACE store. I get, I get emails from them and stuff on Facebook that, hey, I went down to the local ACE store and in Nebraska, because you're sponsoring the boat, so it I mean it helps everybody and I tried really hard with ACE hardware to get them involved and they they helped for a while. Uh, they had a co-op program that I could use to help pay for it, uh, and then they've changed that, they've changed that program. So at the end that was it was all on me to do it again. It's it, it gets the boat to the Tri-Cities.
Speaker 3:That was my goal and again, if he wanted to keep doing it, I would still be sponsoring. But I really don't have interest in turbine boats. So that's where I told him when you're done, I'm done, and he made the decision. He talked to me about it. I wanted to know if I had any long-term commitments with it, since I didn't when he said he was done okay, I'm good, we'll just go to watch the race this year.
Speaker 1:All right, Knuckleheads.
Speaker 1:That's all the time we have for this week come back next week, as we'll have part two of my interview with charlie griggs, alongside co-host mike hall. Hopefully got a chance to get to know charlie a little bit better with this episode, and we'll have many more stories to share next week. Don't forget to check us out on our social media platforms on Facebook and Instagram, as well as our website online at roostertelltalkcom. On there, you can find many updates about the podcast and even check out the subscription service Roostertell Talk Plus, where you get early access to new episodes, enter into monthly raffle drawings, as well as many other fun prizes and surprises along the way. But that's all we have for this week, so until next time. I hope to see you at the races.